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July 10, 2009


  1. July 10, 2009 8:30 am

    Less than a week for the showing of Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. A total non-feminist guilty pleasure. Our town is having a showing at midnight Tuesday night, which officially will be Wednesday July 15. So all release date protocol will be observed. But do I want to go at midnight Tuesday night or wait a few days until the crowds die down? I’ve read that book at least three times and listened to it on audio at least once, and I cannot figure out why the movie would have Bellatrix Lestrange walking on the tables in the Great Hall at Hogwarts. In the book, when the Death Eaters enter Hogwarts (with that horrible werewolf, Greyback) through the Room of Requirements, Bellatrix is not one of them. I guess the director thought Helena Bonham Carter should get more screen time. Well, she is fun to watch.

  2. Mary Sunshine permalink
    July 10, 2009 9:06 am

    I just finished reading The Water’s Lovely by Ruth Rendell.

    Excellent book! Here’s the NY Times review of it:


    Although, reading Ruth Rendell and P.D. James throughout the duration of a feminist flame-war does not engender emotional tranquillity.


    • July 11, 2009 1:21 am

      Mary, do you borrow DVDs from your local library? I just finished a Ruth Rendell collection. I borrowed it from my library. It was set 3, which included “Going Wrong,” “Harm Done,” The Fallen Curtain,” The Lake of Darkness,” and “You Can’t be too Careful”. “Harm Done” and “You Can’t be Too Careful” had some feminist elements in it. Some is something vs. nothing, like, when there is none I suppose. And I still maintain that the English has perfected the “Over Bearing Wife Meme!” Perfected!

  3. July 10, 2009 3:29 pm

    Okay. I adore Shakira, really I do. I think she’s quite talented and her song “No” makes me swoon. And when I first heard this song, I thought, wow, that’s so catchy! But the video:

    though strangely compelling, like a horrible car wreck that you can’t tear your eyes away from, is a sad object lesson in female=sex. No male musician would have to flaunt his booty like this, in order to sell records. Not to mention the incredibly hokey background scenarios. It’s like they threw in EVERY soft porn trope they could think of — crashing waves, lurid sunsets, galloping horses, crawling in the mud, exploding geysers (or something, what is that?). Wow. I know racist dicks made this parody too, but some of it is merited:

    Don’t you think?

  4. July 10, 2009 3:39 pm

    Everyone probably knows all about this one, but since I went there with Shakira, I’ll go to the battle of “My Humps” — another song the racist-sexism of which I can’t stand while being simultaneously transfixed by the spectacle:

    And wishing Alanis’ parody was even half as compelling — though it is funny when she punches the one guy in the balls:

    • melim permalink
      July 10, 2009 6:55 pm

      The antidote for the videos Amy posted 😛

    • Mary Sunshine permalink
      July 10, 2009 7:49 pm

      Thanks, Melim! 🙂

  5. melim permalink
    July 11, 2009 2:22 am

    Isn’t she kick-ass? I love, love, love women drummers. Only partially because I wanted to be one, sigh…

  6. unmarrieddaughter permalink
    July 11, 2009 10:19 pm


    I am in the midst of putting together what I used to call lithographs* on your dismenorreha and natural remedies that my clients/people have used. (I would say try them, but then I would be potentially prescribing, and since I am not a medical doctor, but am on the outskirts of medicine where I could potentially accused of prescibing, I have to be very careful on how I use my language)

    Anyway, it generally takes me a week to write one up, are you interested in getting an email from me by next Saturday with the information?

    *Is lithograph the right word? Basically, this information is just stuff that I have organized according to my personal methodology of healing, but the paper itself doesn’t prescribe/recommend/suggest anything. I didn’t know what else to call them, but people would ask me all the time what they could do for such and such, so I used to write these up and ask for suggested donation. (No, I am not soliciting, I also believe in the wise woman tradition that wise women share all their knowledge on healing, not expecting payment, or at times not expecting payment of any type, yeah, I am naive.)

    • July 13, 2009 3:22 pm

      Unmarrieddaughter, email me! I’ve been without internet service for a while, so I couldn’t respond.

  7. unmarrieddaughter permalink
    July 11, 2009 10:22 pm

    Or, I could post it to my defunct blog if anyone else is interested.

    I am going to check out the Shakira videos, I think I would like her music and it would take me out depressed singer/songwriter mode I am in. There really is only so much Lucinda Williams a soul can take.

  8. atheistwoman permalink
    July 12, 2009 10:56 pm

    Just for you Kitty ;-). I recently watched some episodes (including the hilarious flying dutchman one and loved it.

    • July 13, 2009 5:40 am

      LOL! AW, so does that mean you saw that ship after Spongebob was telling the Flying Dutchman, “You’re Good, You’re Good, You’re Good!” LMAO!

      As far as the article (thanks for the link!)

      First, I seriously doubt Obama watches Spongebob, or if he does, it is simply on in the background while he is in the room, but no, no, I don’t believe he watches Spongebob. The number one signifier used for understanding and identifying a Spongebob viewer is the ability to make fun of oneself. You have to, it is essential. A pole is shoved too far up Obama’s ego, making him incapable of laughing at himself. I suspect, him claiming he does, is a creation of his image department, –just like when he claimed he watched The Wire (incidentally, I’ve never see that show, nor am I interested in doing so, however, I can see how Obama’s people would want others to think he watches whatever show the so-called kewl dudes are watching at the time).

      And while some of the I’m-so-cool-I-watch-“Spongebob” cult status has worn thin of late, the series celebrates its first decade as popular as ever and without having disclosed any higher meaning to Bikini Bottom. The mystery lives on.

      Those people were posers. No true Spongebob viewer would watch just to say they watch. That is ludicrous!

      Part of the show’s mystique is precisely that it has so little edge or subversive double-entendres.

      Yes, I can go with that because shows like The Simpsons, The Family Guy, and South Park have a contrived angst, a perverseness, a futile attempt to rebel and subvert targeted to/for an audience desiring rebellion and subversion, but with no reason to rebel or subvert anything. In other words, they will simply return to white middle class values as soon as their hip and edgy show is over. Or/and they will use it as springboard to talk to other fake rebels.

      So many cartoons these days put adult words and neuroses into the mouth of children, from the toddlers of “Rugrats” to Stewie, the catty and supercilious infant son on “Family Guy.”

      SpongeBob is an optimist, a naïf and a child, and the unifying joke is that he is impervious to danger or dislike….

      SpongeBob loves his friends and doesn’t realize that some, notably his neighbor Squidward and even Mr. Krabs, his miserly boss at the Krusty Krab food shack, do not exactly reciprocate. Mostly SpongeBob lives in his own watery universe, helping his friends and pursuing his interests, which include the lifestyles of Vikings or the research projects of his friend Sandy, an air-breathing squirrel scientist who lives under a bubble in Bikini Bottom to explore the ocean floor.

      In other words, Spongbob is fun, not nasty or cruel for nasty and cruel sake, like so many other “edgy” and “snarky” cartoons.

      At times, however, the writers seem to poke fun at some of the sick humor so prevalent on “South Park” and other more sophisticated animated series.

      They have silly misadventures, usually at the hands of their larcenous, parasitic neighbor, Julien, King of the Lemurs; but the heroes are adults in penguin form.

      Yes this is true. I do see the appeal in shows like The Penguins of Madagascar and Back at the Barnyard, however, they are very adult. And I find, the adultness leaves the child feeling/sensing they are missing something, like, “who will fill in the blank for that knowing wink that I just saw/felt from the character in the cartoon” and I don’t like it. It rushes their maturity, causing them to say things and act in ways that conveys a more mature knowledge of a topic than they actually have at their age. I will even say it robs the child, it robs the child of aging at their own natural pace.

      It’s been 10 years now, and “SpongeBob” still seems refreshing and innocent compared with so much other precocious children’s programming.

      My sweetie is 10. We love SpongeBob from day one, and I suppose it is because it is innocent. I cannot stand when adult dialogue is used in children’s cartoons. And yes, precocious is horrific! Horrific I tell you. Especially because the precocious displayed in cartoons and children’s shows is not the same precocious that precocious children actually display when/if they are precocious. Cartoons (Rugrats for example) use a corrupt arm of precociousness that I will not reward or encourage by watching.

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