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December 2, 2009

There are a few women online who admit that the tactics of men like Misha Dark are reprehensible, even admit that he’s a man, yet still, for some reason, cling to the belief that other men like him are in fact female.  What I want to know is, even if that were the case (which it isn’t) how do you plan on telling the difference?  Is it merely the commission of racist misogynist acts that condemns a male tranny to maleness in your mind?  Or would thinking of resorting to racist misogyny be enough?

And if it’s just the actual commission of it, then, why does not the choice to stand idly by and benefit from such acts condemn the other trannies the same way it does when other, gender-conforming and/or reality-aware, males stand by and benefit from racist misogyny? And,if it’s just harboring the thought or intent of racist misogyny, then, again, how on earth do you plan to tell the difference?

It doesn’t add up.

14 Comments
  1. December 2, 2009 5:26 pm

    If the tyrannies were accepted as women, most of them being white, how does that help black women? That is why I know on-line anti-racism is a joke. Most of these tyrannies are white. So exactly how does it help black women when more Miss Annes are crammed down women’s throats?

    They are white men demanding their way, and women are falling all over themselves to help the white man out. And people are supposed to believe anti-racism is important to these people. Whatever.

  2. December 2, 2009 5:41 pm

    See, I take for granted that they don’t give a shit about black women. I’m just trying to figure out how they make this whole “He’s a man, but he’s a woman” work out with any kind of consistency in their heads, since they’ve already chosen the male “women” over the black women anyway.

  3. December 2, 2009 5:55 pm

    Of course, there is always the angle of getting rid of the competition. As in, it is usually the “low life” women (less education, no trust fund, fat, prone to be fat, white trash, freckled, overly redneckish, etc) who marry/mate/cohort with the less than perfect men. But occasionally some of those “low life” women clean up enough to “fool” “better” men, the preferable men, the men, that privilege white woman want for themselves. So the tyrannies dying to have a heterosexual relationship (that he so desperately wants to call lesbian on lesbian action) will have their pick of the “low life” women, thus leaving the preferred men left for the more privilege women.

    lol

  4. December 2, 2009 5:59 pm

    Would Jessica Valenti date/marry a tyrannie? No. And she has a built in excuse for her rejection. It is not because he is gross and in need of mental care, it is because he is a lesbian, see, and she is not a lesbian. Built in excuse. By advocating the Tyrannies she gets her on-line anti-whatever is fashionable to be anti points and she limits the competition for Mr. Big.

  5. One Nerve Left permalink
    December 2, 2009 8:04 pm

    I think that some women judge a male pretending to be a woman by how fuckable he is in their eyes. I believe that there are some women who call themselves lesbians, but in reality want to be with a man and the only way they can achieve that goal is to be with a male who ‘looks like’ a woman (‘looks like’ is the operative phrase in that it is a male imitating a woman). They are not lesbian women, but are hetero women.

    It is no different than women who lived their lives in a hetero world and then came out as lesbian. There are women who have lived the lesbian life and come out as hetero.

    Some of those lesbians who are closeted heteros are so invested in their lesbian identity that the only way they can act upon their heterosexuality is to hook up with a male who pretends to be a woman.

    I think that many of the lesbians who demand that males who pose as women be accepted in the lesbian community are the same ones who are hetero and they want to have a male partner and not lose their dyke card. So they push these males as being ‘lesbian’ because if we didn’t buy into the fantasy that males can be women, then what in the hell is a closet hetero lesbian to do? She cannot admit she is screwing a male.

    • December 2, 2009 11:54 pm

      I think a lot of the women who coddle/stay with/approve of female transsexuals in lesbian communities/relationships are also closeted hetero women who’d be with a man under the right circumstances. You’d have to be a pretty misogynist woman either way – to shove some man in press-on nails down lesbians’ throats OR to stand by while a woman butchered herself and celebrate it as part of her and your sexuality.

    • December 2, 2009 11:59 pm

      I knew a professor once who claimed to be bisexual, but mostly lesbian but was only attracted to lesbians who were “transitioning.” Not “butch” lesbian, but “transitioning” lesbians, she specifically pointed to the facial hair in beard form. I thought she wanted a man myself, but, I bit my tongue since my grades were at her mercy. I think if a “good” man would have come along, she would’ve abandoned all that bisexual/lesbian talk.

  6. One Nerve Left permalink
    December 3, 2009 12:56 pm

    Has anyone considered that the ‘PC’ stuff that has been jammed down our collective throats helped to create this scenario of women being disenfranchised, feeling as if they have to accept all forms of diversity. It seems that men are not asked of nor demanded to do any of this on the level that women are pushed to accept anything that men dream up. Men, known for being violent, use that violence to secure their boundaries. Women, on the other hand are demanded to accept everything that men cast out. That includes males cast out of manhood.

    Women have been programmed through PC diversity to the point that some women make believe that a biological male can change his sex and in turn can be a woman. Any woman with any semblance of reason combined with a smattering of knowledge KNOWS that males can never be female. It is biologically impossible. To believe it to be possible is to behave in an insane manner. This is what males who claim to be female are demanding, that we be insane, in the same bed with their insanity and not only ignore reality, the biological reality, but to then assist these males in their pursuit of their make believe, their unbalanced fantasy.

    The 20 and 30 somethings that are products of this progressive schooling, products of liberal PC thinking are some of the ones who are ignorant of what the foundation of women’s liberation was all about. Mind you, I do not agree with nor endorse all of the leaders of that movement, but the core concept of freedom from second class status resonates with me. One of the founding principles is female agency, standing for yourself and other women as human beings with the same rights for liberty and happiness that is afforded males. We lose that agency when our focus becomes PC diversity. Males demand us to bend and ignore ourselves in favor of everyone else. What a ruse.

    Have we lost reasoning and the ability to stand for reality and sensibility, trading that for being politically correct which really means that you lose your power as a human being, as a woman, to discern what is right, what is good? If you are being PC, you suck it up; do not say what you think because you give all of your power to the other person. You let them walk on you, do what they want because, in being PC you have to allow all of this and call it diversity and leave your personal agency in the shadows.

    Who teaches this PC stuff anyway and what is the real end result of ignoring your human agency, silencing yourself all for the sake of the other person, ignoring that they are standing on your foot because you do not want to hurt their feelings? Who wants women to ignore their power? Who wants women to be silent? Who wants women to enable insanity? Males/ men all want this of women. Males push PC and diversity. Males who claim transgender status, transsexuality are the agents delivering this MANdate demanding and instructing women that we must be a partner in their insanity. These insane failed males cannot turn to men as enablers; men have cast them out, so of course it falls to women to be the big teat and coddle these insane males who claim to be women.

    • December 3, 2009 6:12 pm

      I don’t think PC-ness is necessarily the culprit. It is misogyny. PC in itself may be misogynist, but women expecting to accept all things male is nothing more than regular run of the mill misogyny.

      Males push PC and diversity.

      Actually, only certain men, men who want to retain their male privilege over women but appear to be not as awful as the he-men push diversity. I don’t believe most men want diversity. Most men simply want to be in charge, and everyone else to submit.

  7. One Nerve Left permalink
    December 3, 2009 7:56 pm

    Hey everyone, I am very interested in the topic of political correctness and the hatred of women. I am in the middle of something right now, but am trying to write a post. It is interesting , the hidden agenda of male dominated politics, their desire for us to be politically ‘correct’, to subconsciously control us through ‘what is right’ and how the hatred and desire to have women submit is wrapped into the PC vehicle. Needless to say, insane failed males posing as women are riding this ‘PC” vehicle.

    Thank you Kitty for your comment, I hope to be back soon.

    • Nicky permalink
      December 4, 2009 1:56 am

      Why do you think that men want to do the same thing to the intersex people as well. Men want to push their PC crap onto the intersex people and force intersex people to accept their so called diversity crap of men who pretend to be intersex as well. They even go so far as to force intersex people to accept trannies as one of them and Men will claim that intersex people have something in common with them.

      Their is an article that proves my point and here are the quotes from the article;

      “In the nineteen-nineties, a movement spearheaded by an activist who used to call herself Cheryl Chase, and now goes by the name Bo Laurent, insisted that what was needed was a new identity. Chase founded the Intersex Society of North America (now defunct) to draw attention to the frequently tragic consequences of doctors’ performing irreversible surgery on newborns to enforce a sex—one that the baby might just as easily as not grow up to reject. The society advocated assigning intersex children a gender at birth but leaving their bodies intact, so that upon adulthood they could make their own choices about whether they wished to undergo surgical modification.

      Then something unexpected happened. “The intersex identity started getting inhabited by people who weren’t really intersex,” Dreger said. “The people who accumulated around the intersex identity tended to be queer and out and comfortable with this identity outside the gender binary.” They felt that refraining from interfering with infants’ ambiguous genitalia was the first step on a desirable path to dissolving gender altogether. To them, this idea was “as politically inspiring as it is utterly disconnected from the actual experience of intersex people or the heart-wrenching decisions their parents have to make when an intersex child is born,” as Vernon A. Rosario, a professor of psychiatry at U.C.L.A., put it in a recent issue of The Gay and Lesbian Review.”

      “Now there is an even newer term of art for people born with ambiguously sexed bodies who do not wish to be connected with the “L.G.B.T.Q.I.”—lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex—camp: “disorders of sex development,” or D.S.D. By naming the condition a medical “disorder,” advocates of the D.S.D. label hope to make the people it describes seem less aberrant. “Oddly enough, it does normalize it in a certain way,” Fausto-Sterling said. “It’s putting it on the same plane as other anomalous development—like congenital anomalies of the heart.” Advocates of the D.S.D. label are not seeking to create a third sex. Rather, they want disorders of sex development to be treated like any other physical abnormality: something for doctors to monitor but not to operate on, unless the patient is in physical discomfort or danger.”

      http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/30/091130fa_fact_levy?currentPage=all

  8. joankelly6000 permalink
    December 3, 2009 10:08 pm

    I know this is off-topic but I have to tell you I love the snow.

  9. February 7, 2010 5:33 pm

    Great article, Nicky.

    It strikes me again and again that much of the “gender theory” / etc coming out of the post modern way of thinking is simply a new form of the age-old conqueror’s philosophy: the taking over what’s native, and re-imaging it within the foreign. I was at at a women’s festival once, where there were various tents around for women with some commonality to gather together and share their lives and energy with each other. Except that the native-american tent had to put up a sign: “Native-American in THIS life ONLY.”

    The same belief-system that convinces euro-americans that they can also “choose” to be and therefore re-define native-american is the same belief system that convinces males that they can “choose” to be and therefore re-define female. That it’s not real doesn’t make any difference, because the point isn’t to be real but to enjoy the illusion and myth the conqueror has created for his/her own benefit.

    The conqueror spreading these myths to others who feel real pain and alienation for not fitting within their own culture’s narrow allowances for what should be “male” and what should be “female”, pushing these illusions forward as the only “fix” to their pain, only compounds the problem by circumventing “gender nonconformists” standing up to remake *their own* lives, rather than participating in ripping off and destroying others’ lives.

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